Thursday, 20 March 2008

Dinner with Herb

I am NOT responsible for the following video. All credit goes to the person (whose identity I don't know) who found this classic propaganda clip and added a new music soundtrack. Revel in the splendor of the Herbal table, the godly elegance of the furnishings and the priggishness of the carefully selected student guests. But don't just view it here - click across to K-Scribe's splendid, elegant, godly (but decidedly unpriggish) website for more.

Actually, I think the original version, with Herb plonking a Chopin etude (?) would be every bit as Monty Pythonesque...


29 comments:

The Third Witness said...

The original piece is entitled "Poème" by Fibich, also known as "My Moonlight Madonna" Рand, of course, it was written YEARS before Ms Ciccone appeared on the world scene.

With hindsight, I suppose it should have been predictable that it was only a matter of time before someone would volunteer to play it at a church talent show. I personally witnessed one such occasion.

Tom Mahon said...

Kscribe will be surprised to discover that HWA will have the last laugh!

Northeast Iowa Mom said...

The students are all Young Ambassadors from the years around 1982-85 or thereabouts, I remember those people.

DennisDiehl said...

I attended such a dinner with HWA. He had just returned from visiting Anwar Sadat and was tired. Dinner was very low keyed. He spoke of his visit and that he generally just ate in the kitchen and had a sandwich or salad. I don't recall if he played the piano but may have and then gave us a tour of the home. It was rather like an evening with grandpa.

Anonymous said...

Well shucks, I wanted to hear if "grandpa" Herb could really play.
Now I'll never know.

( unless there is a version out there not 'doctored' up.)

Charlie said...

Tom said: "Kscribe will be surprised to discover that HWA will have the last laugh!"

Tom, herbie is dead, you may be shocked to learn.

Steve said...

Charlie said...
Tom said: "Kscribe will be surprised to discover that HWA will have the last laugh!"

Tom, herbie is dead, you may be shocked to learn.

MY COMMENT: Actually, Tom meant that the worms eating Herbie will have the last laugh. :-)

You'd Be Surprised said...

"Kscribe will be surprised to discover that HWA will have the last laugh!"

You'd be surprised to discover that HWA would have treated you like sh!# Tom, just like he did to all those closest to him.

People like you would have been his slavish tool, doing his bidding and his dirty work to build up his evil empire. Of course, he would eventually use you to wipe his you-know-what, then give you the flush when it was convenient for him to do so.

The man was a user Tom. He loved his ego stroked and he loved to hear, "Yes Mr. Armstrong." Even if he KNEW something wasn't the best decision, or right thing to do.

You TRULY would be shocked to learn that you don't know what in the hell you're talking about, so lay off the HWA comments, unless you KNEW HIM PERSONALLY!

I pity you.

The Third Witness said...

It's a lovely composition, of course, and I personally found the emotional impact of seeing HWA playing the piano at such an advanced age to be quite considerable. I well remember sitting in the auditorium at the Vingstedcentret, Bredsten, Denmark, watching that Festival film during the Feast. I must admit I did a double take when I saw the gold plates, and "humanly" I felt that the table setting as a whole was "over the top" for my personal tastes. The person sitting beside me whispered, "Only the best is good enough for God", and I think many Feastgoers that year would have agreed with that sentiment. Anybody else remember their reactions at the time?

DennisDiehl said...

Bob Jones University Collections make WCG and HWA look like Woolworths. It , of course, has been the source of much criticism as well and was no doubt not paid for out of Dr. Bob's pocket.

"The BJU Museum and Gallery contains 30 galleries (rooms), including three authentic wood-paneled Gothic chambers, displaying more than 400 works by famous pagan artists such as Rembrandt, Ribera, Murillo, Cranach, Veronese, Titian Tiepolo, Botticelli, Tintoretto, Van Dyck, Rubens, and Sabastiano de Piombo. The collection's Baroque works are the most famous, but the Gallery is well-represented in other schools, such as the 15th and early 16th century Flemish and Dutch paintings, and early gold background Italian altarpieces. The large painted crucifix is one of the prime examples in America of this type painting of the period. Besides the paintings, the gallery/museum houses collections of Greek and Russian Orthodox icons; Renaissance furniture, altar pieces, famous busts, ancient coins, and period clothing of the life and times contemporary with the paintings; sculpture; vestments made for the Imperial Chapel in Vienna; and the Bowen Biblical Lands Museum (also known as The Bowen Collection of Biblical Antiquities and Illustrative Material).

"Bob Jones University believes that nothing is too good for God, and here on these walls we see great talent employed in His service. We want you to enjoy these pictures as well as be blessed by them."

Anonymous said...

"Bob Jones University believes that nothing is too good for God..."

Just think of the trillions of units of currency forked over by human beings to religious organizations over the past two thousand years. It boggles the mind. Just imagine all that money put to use for the betterment of the people who gave it up, or humanity in general.

And what has most of that money been spent on? Certainly hasn't been those who forked it over.

Paul

Anonymous said...

Sneaky Clyde is supposed to be in Michigan City,IN. The stated reason for his being in Indiana is to answer questions about the very unpopular Home Office move to Texas.

Is this meeting allowing the tithe slaves to attend, or will just the elite priestly welfare class in the region be allowed to attend?

Does anyone know the details?

Tom Mahon said...

Charlie said...

>>>herbie is dead, you may be shocked to learn.<<<

Is he really? How come Jesus told Martha, "He that believes in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live: And whosoever lives and believes in me shall never die?"

This is doctrine is the meat of the word, which you are unable to digest. So I won't expect you to understand what Jesus was teaching Martha.

In fact, the moment you reverted to keeping Xmas and attaching HWA, you were suddenly made blind to the teachings of Christ.

Tom Mahon said...

A nameless person said:

>>>People like you would have been his slavish tool, doing his bidding and his dirty work to build up his evil empire.<<<

I was tempted to ask, what do you mean by the phrase, "people like you?" But I suspect that if you don't have to courage to attach you name to your hateful comments, you won't be willing to answer any questions.

>>>You TRULY would be shocked to learn that you don't know what in the hell you're talking about,<<<

I don't have the faintest idea what you referring to. Please feel free to post some examples of my ignorance.

>>>I pity you.<<<

That is very noble of you! You should now be able to sleep peacefully, knowing that you felt pity for one who just avoided being a slave of HWA.

Anonymous said...

"In fact, the moment you reverted to keeping Xmas and attaching HWA, you were suddenly made blind to the teachings of Christ."


So one can lose their salvation by celebrating the birth of Jesus Christ and disparaging the name of a drunken, incestuous cult leader?? What a weird religion!



Paul

Kscribe said...

Blogger Tom Mahon said...

Kscribe will be surprised to discover that HWA will have the last laugh............

Yep, he died with MY money! I guess that is a "winning" statement for the apostate apostle!

Baashabob said...

Ah come on you guys! Lighten up on poor old Tom. He has always claimed Herbie spoke the truth, and in the video Tom is completely exonerated.

The video begins with Herbie's eloquent toast:
"Here is to the happiest time of my life,
Spent in the arms of another man's wife"

How much more truthful can you get? By the time of Herbie's statement, Dorothy was indeed another man's wife.

Please forgive us Tom. Herbie did tell the truth after all.

Bob E.

Anonymous said...

My relatives are "normal" people who know nothing about the WCG.I'm guessing that they would shake their heads in disbelief at the fact that I check this site every day. They would be saying things such as "So just who the hell is this Herb guy anyway"? I could say just ask Biker Bob or Dennis or Tom Mahon too Corky and Lussenheide. They would say "And just who the hell are they"?

LOL ya gotta love the ignorance of my relatives and inlaws, and in a way I'm jealous of their ignorance as well.

Oh well I have a few other sites that I'm involved with that have nothing to do with any of this. I do have an after Armstronginism life.

Yes, dinner with Herb would have been something that I would never forget, but my finest dinners were very simple ones with my grandma and granpa who are now deceased,but those dinners are some of my best memories of my youth.

Lussenheide said...

Annonymous:

Just have your relatives view the following, and this should explain everything about your WCG experience, and what Ambassador Watch and the "AW Ratpack" are all about...

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Qmg9WZrhIsI&feature=related

(Copy link, paste into internet browser and press "enter")

It should clear up everything!

Bill Lussenheide, Menifee, CA USA

Anonymous said...

Luss,

Your copy and paste link doesn't work.

Lussenheide said...
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Anonymous said...

I submitted my FOT tapes in Germany to

GERMANY"S MOST DISTURBING HOME VIDEOS.....HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

On SPROCKETS

Anonymous said...

Watching those young AC men and women for a few moments brought just one description to mind...Stepford.

Weinland Watch said...

So will watching the Gaither Gospel hour.

I don't think the CoGs have a monopoly on the Stepford Christian Syndrome. We were just a tad more legalistic about it than other churches.

Charlie said...

Anonymous said: "Watching those young AC men and women for a few moments brought just one description to mind...Stepford."

That and another mooment of relief that I'm out!!! I couldn't stand those young ambassador films...The goofball smiles and big beak were too much for a teen in the 80's.

Kscribe said...

Blogger Lussenheide said...

Annonymous:

Just have your relatives view the following, and this should explain everything about your WCG experience, and what Ambassador Watch and the "AW Ratpack" are all about...

That link that didn't work is HERE

Larry Leta said...

Sorry but in my opinion Tom Mahon's posts are moronic and infantile.

Anonymous said...

Our grad dinner with HWA in 1976 in Big Sandy was a shocker - HWA cried while recounting how he was in love with a wonderful woman (Ramona) and he needed to be with her so much but GTA wouldn't let him marry her. Then he charged us all "as God's Apostle" not to tell anyone what he'd said. Of course, this followed him totally trashing his first wife and complaining that she was frigid and that it was our duty to please our husbands. Thank goodness we had a lot to drink.

Anonymous said...

Ghastly!