tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28426681.post2909981387111086240..comments2023-11-05T20:19:44.812+13:00Comments on Ambassador Watch: Dear RonGavinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03060097218905523899noreply@blogger.comBlogger62125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28426681.post-52776441784593156622008-06-14T14:04:00.000+12:002008-06-14T14:04:00.000+12:00Herbert W would be proud of Ronnie.Ronnie needs to...Herbert W would be proud of Ronnie.<BR/>Ronnie needs to read is old member letter 1972 to see how old Herb dealt with the infamous 1975 in Prophecy, tips from the master.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28426681.post-13607015962386422862008-06-12T01:57:00.000+12:002008-06-12T01:57:00.000+12:00"Christians are supposed to be like Hebrew Nationa...<EM>"Christians are supposed to be like Hebrew National Franks (answering to a higher authority)!"</EM><BR/><BR/>If that were really true, all we would see of 99.999999999% of Christians would be smoke curling up from the insoles of their shoes......Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28426681.post-53988975170196296652008-06-12T01:54:00.000+12:002008-06-12T01:54:00.000+12:00"And will your children not have to endure the "re...<EM>"And will your children not have to endure the "religious hell" of all these pagan festivals?"</EM><BR/><BR/>I think the hell Charlie was referring to was the one where we children didn't have enough food to eat, didn't have good clothes to wear, and didn't have a decent place to live, Tom.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28426681.post-35444359415913409792008-06-11T09:04:00.001+12:002008-06-11T09:04:00.001+12:00Tom Mahon said, "Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah"Tom, Nobod...Tom Mahon said, "Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah"<BR/><BR/>Tom, Nobody cares what you think or write.<BR/><BR/>RichardAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28426681.post-18905664533603504112008-06-11T09:04:00.000+12:002008-06-11T09:04:00.000+12:00Tom Mahon said, "Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah"Tom, Nobod...Tom Mahon said, "Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah"<BR/><BR/>Tom, Nobody cares what you think or write.<BR/><BR/>RichardAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28426681.post-18602751403446845522008-06-10T19:07:00.000+12:002008-06-10T19:07:00.000+12:00You forgot the thus saith the Lord, (William H. St...You forgot the thus saith the Lord, (William H. Stiebing, Jr.), a writer of inane fiction, which is believed by those who don't know their right hand from their left.Tom Mahonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02087223683733643082noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28426681.post-42341976682155323612008-06-10T17:54:00.000+12:002008-06-10T17:54:00.000+12:00Enki loves Lillith,There's too much genius in Gene...Enki loves Lillith,<BR/><BR/>There's too much genius in Genesis to wash it away with Mesopotamian flood tales. Dig into it and you'll see what I mean. Genius is an understatement.<BR/><BR/>Most cultures have flood myths. If Mesopotamians remembered the flood story as the origin of the Sabbath, created by gods, they must have descended from C students looking out a porthole while Noah explained the deluge -- again and again, and again.<BR/><BR/>Exodus looks back at Genesis like this: "U vayom hashvii, shavat vayinafash. And on the seventh day, He rested and was refreshed." He, not they, was refreshed, vayinafash -- on the same root as nephesh, applied to God here, Who in another place refers to His Presence as nafshi, my soul, personal possessive of nephesh. The Bible makes a lot more sense when it's not obscured in translation. It even wanders from AC theology now and then.<BR/><BR/>As for Lillith, you'd better watch your back. She was way too much for Adam. Good luck.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28426681.post-81774989823724085082008-06-10T16:04:00.000+12:002008-06-10T16:04:00.000+12:00After WW-II, folks wondered what would happen to t...After WW-II, folks wondered what would happen to the huge military-industrial complex that had supported the war. It never went away. It's always been right there waiting behind the scenes for any opportunities to justify its existence.<BR/><BR/>Same with theological-industrial complexes. Weiner Dude is not going to go away. Nor will any of the others who manage to get huevos rancheros all over their faces via false prophecy. By the way, false prophecy is no big deal to anyone other than ourselves. Jeane Dixon missed the mark so many times it was pathetic, but presidents consulted with her along with everyday people who were concerned about their lives. That, however, is what "the world" uses as it's standards. Christians are supposed to be like Hebrew National Franks (answering to a higher authority)!<BR/><BR/>BBByker Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17963860939122842077noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28426681.post-4977988451634605712008-06-10T15:41:00.000+12:002008-06-10T15:41:00.000+12:00Pentecost is DEFINATELY OVER Ron! No it's time to ...Pentecost is DEFINATELY OVER Ron! No it's time to get off your fat lard ass and get a REAL JOB! Hard work never killed anybody.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28426681.post-56606009605922780562008-06-10T14:40:00.000+12:002008-06-10T14:40:00.000+12:00FALSE PROPHETS AND THE LAW OF GODTechnically, all ...<B>FALSE PROPHETS AND THE LAW OF GOD</B><BR/><BR/>Technically, all lying false prophets should be stoned to death. If only God's good laws were enforced today, for the protection, safety, and good of all <I>innocent</I> people! Then, only the wicked, lying false prophets would suffer. It would put a stop to all these godless bums always making up lies in God's name and always making off with other people's money (OPM).<BR/><BR/>There is no need to agonize over it or to wonder endlessly about whether the liars are "sincere" liars or whether they are tricky, malicious liars. The plain truth is simply that they <I>are</I> liars, and <I>are</I> greedily making off with the money, and <I>do</I> fully deserve to be stopped <I><B>dead!</B></I> Nobody should ever have their time, energy, and money wasted by lying false prophets!<BR/><BR/>Parents should teach their children not to lie, but to simply tell the truth. The COGs should also teach everyone not to lie, rather than producing so many "ministers" who cannot seem to do anything but lie and steal.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28426681.post-63936715034938561182008-06-10T12:21:00.000+12:002008-06-10T12:21:00.000+12:00I think Joanie said, "Sit on it, Potsie"So Tom Mah...I think Joanie said, "Sit on it, Potsie"<BR/><BR/>So Tom Mahon, sit on it!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28426681.post-52456652345192251702008-06-10T11:07:00.000+12:002008-06-10T11:07:00.000+12:00Anonymous said... "In my opinion, I think Ron and ...Anonymous said... <BR/>"In my opinion, I think Ron and his wife, Laura, are sincere".<BR/><BR/>MY COMMENT -I think Ron and his wife are sincere....sincere about building their retirement nest egg off the dumb sheep.<BR/><BR/>RichardAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28426681.post-17332888471115830362008-06-10T10:48:00.000+12:002008-06-10T10:48:00.000+12:00>>>>Robert - Do you wear an aluminum foil helmet t...>>>>Robert - Do you wear an aluminum foil helmet too?<BR/><BR/>No I will have foil around my RFID chipped passport or I simply wont bother to renew it -- I haven't decided yet. <BR/><BR/>>>>>Get some help. Seriously. I thought you were just a little too into the bible, but 'Secret Calculations'???<BR/><BR/>Actually I was imitating Mr Ron in a "parady" of religious babble that only he could understand, as it it was my personal message to him (should he ever read it!)<BR/><BR/>My only claim to fame is that I was born in 1975-- the year that the world was supposed to end - and that an earthquake happened the night of my baptism! And very occasionally there is a short burst of thunder from heaven (it usually is just one bang and that's it) and then I know that I have upset God again!Robert https://www.blogger.com/profile/12120572010028667586noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28426681.post-49505342339435231462008-06-10T10:21:00.000+12:002008-06-10T10:21:00.000+12:00"You're a month late, but fine."Not according to 4..."You're a month late, but fine."<BR/><BR/>Not according to 450 million Orthodox Church members.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28426681.post-92174149261725298162008-06-10T10:09:00.000+12:002008-06-10T10:09:00.000+12:00Ron Weinland should go out to PASTURE but unfortun...Ron Weinland should go out to PASTURE but unfortunately, more likely,it will be to PASTOR.<BR/><BR/><BR/>SeamusAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28426681.post-12053209944404103242008-06-10T09:19:00.000+12:002008-06-10T09:19:00.000+12:00Anonymous said... In my opinion, I think Ron and h...Anonymous said... <BR/>In my opinion, I think Ron and his wife, Laura, are sincere. <BR/><BR/>And I agree wholeheartedly. This is what being god haunted in a view of the scriptures and reading the Bible and especially Revelation like a newspaper can do. <BR/><BR/>It goes way back before Armstrong. It goes to the switch from allegory and metaphor and a literalism that was never intended in the writing. <BR/><BR/>It's also the result of NT writers badly reading into the OT that which is not there, to tell their view of everything from who they thought Jesus was to when will the end come and what will happen to us all?<BR/><BR/>Ron Weinland, Dave Pack, Gerald Flurry, Rod Meredith and millions like them have never learned that you cannot make a scripture mean what it never meant. <BR/><BR/>Some of these people have not even learned the Bible does not contain their name or a specific job for them with their name on it. <BR/><BR/>That's a mental disorder.<BR/><BR/>Dave Pack? I'm not sure if he is totally sincere or it has fast become an family enterprise. Everyone seems to end up with a good paycheck.DennisDiehlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05069884969156562133noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28426681.post-67733763244700989712008-06-10T09:06:00.000+12:002008-06-10T09:06:00.000+12:00Tom said: "It must be very difficult to examine on...Tom said: "It must be very difficult to examine one's own behaviour if one spends most of one's time focusing on the behaviour of others. But haven't you reverted to keeping Xmas, Halloween, Easter and whatever else takes your fancy? And will your children not have to endure the "religious hell" of all these pagan festivals?"<BR/><BR/>Tom, I spend a great deal of time in self-reflection, however I have to repeat to you once again that you cannot compare the effecet of teaching armstrong's delusion to children (I think we all know what that entails) to the temporary but fun stories, traditions, and myths surrounding Christmas, Easter, Tooth Fairy, and the Tickle Monster. You can continue to label it deception if you like, but you are not being intellectually honest.<BR/><BR/>BTW: I did not "Revert" to keeping these pagan festivals since I was born into the wcg. I kept Christmas for the first time in 1995. Oh, and my children do endure them, with much pleasure.<BR/><BR/>One more thing - You may want to look further into the origins of much of what you believe...Using something other than the bible. You will get quite a shock.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28426681.post-64591610098902643422008-06-10T08:45:00.000+12:002008-06-10T08:45:00.000+12:00Tommy... How would you feel if you knew the origin...Tommy... <BR/><BR/>How would you feel if you knew the origins of "and God rested on the Sabbath day" was a Jewish reversal of a Mesopotamian Flood tale? <BR/><BR/>A pagan tale where the original gods got to rest after destroying their "plains of Edin" (Eden) worker slaves, who made too much clamour and kept the gods awake?<BR/><BR/>To solve this they destroyed man with a flood and were able to rest on the seventh day of that flood.<BR/><BR/>Before the reversal story for the reasons for the flood and the origin of the Sabbath in Genesis were written.... <BR/><BR/>ALL THE GODS RESTED ON THE SEVENTH DAY of the Shuruppak (Mesopotamian) Flood because man who had disturbed their rest with his "clamor" had been annihilated by the flood waters and the resulting SILENCE allowed them to REST by day and SLEEP by night.<BR/><BR/>"...the Flood tradition has undergone a qualitative change since being removed from Mesopotamia. That the Old Testament contains mythological elements and that it preserved some legendary stories which originated in Mesopotamia or in other cultures of the ancient Near East is to be expected. What is surprising is the degree to which these myths and legends have been transformed by the ancient Israelite conviction..." <BR/><BR/>(William H. Stiebing, Jr. "A Futile Quest, The Search for Noah's Ark.) <BR/><BR/>Just think, you enjoy your weekly rest from toil, be it a Friday (Moslems), Saturday (Jews) or Sunday (Christians) because of a Mesopotamian myth about gods resting on a seventh day after destroying man and the world in a flood in order to obtain their rest...THEIR SHABBAT OR SABBATH.<BR/><BR/>It's all pagan baby.....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28426681.post-32290724895144438082008-06-10T08:18:00.000+12:002008-06-10T08:18:00.000+12:00In my opinion, I think Ron and his wife, Laura, ar...In my opinion, I think Ron and his wife, Laura, are sincere. I believe they are genuinely deceived. I'll spare you all of the details, but I have known both of them for many years and they are good people who think they are doing what God wants them to do. <BR/> I know. It is easier to believe that someone is intentionally scamming people than to believe that anyone could ever be so deceived. <BR/> It is my hope and prayer, that Ron and Laura will face facts eventually, and will have the guts to ask themselves, "were we deceived all along? And did it start with Armstrongism?"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28426681.post-34732104431036585812008-06-10T07:03:00.000+12:002008-06-10T07:03:00.000+12:00Tom Mahon said, "Blah Blah Blah"MY COMMENT - As Jo...Tom Mahon said, "Blah Blah Blah"<BR/><BR/>MY COMMENT - As Joanie once said to Ralph Malph, "Tom, stick it!"<BR/><BR/>RichardAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28426681.post-19377384263619361992008-06-10T06:54:00.001+12:002008-06-10T06:54:00.001+12:00Charlie said...>>>The trouble is that these people...Charlie said...<BR/><BR/>>>>The trouble is that these people tend to mate and produce offspring that have to endure being raised in a religious hell.<<<<BR/><BR/>It must be very difficult to examine one's own behaviour if one spends most of one's time focusing on the behaviour of others. But haven't you reverted to keeping Xmas, Halloween, Easter and whatever else takes your fancy? And will your children not have to endure the "religious hell" of all these pagan festivals?Tom Mahonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02087223683733643082noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28426681.post-64781563306497121132008-06-10T06:54:00.000+12:002008-06-10T06:54:00.000+12:00" Anonymous said... I would imagine that what will..." Anonymous said... <BR/>I would imagine that what will happen will go something like this: eventually, Ron Weinland will make a statement that since "the church" is growing, God has extended the time to allow the lost sheep to come back to the fold. This is because of His great mercy and patience. However, Ron will state that since God's plan has been put on hold, his mission also has been put on hold. I expect he will step down "until God calls him back to his mission."<BR/><BR/>MY COMMENT - Any dumb sheep attending and contributing to Ron Weinland's false prophecy business, please contact me immediately. I have a share of the Brooklyn Bridge you may wish to purchase from me at a bargain price.<BR/><BR/>I will also add your name and contact information to my Sucker's List database that I am building with the intent of selling to those pesky hucksters who will cold call you periodically to "pump and dump" some worthless penny stock. <BR/><BR/>If you are are a contributor to Ron Weinland and his Church, please contact me immediately. Your share of the Brooklyn Bridge will only cost you $1,000 and you will have much more lifetime satisfaction owning a piece of the Bridge than funding Ron Weinland's retirement account.<BR/><BR/>TIME IS SHORT, Brethren, so send your $1,000 Brooklyn Bridge Money to me NOW. This is a Clarion Call.<BR/> <BR/>Boy, are the dumb sheep getting dumber?<BR/><BR/>RichardAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28426681.post-32154980499040976432008-06-10T06:11:00.000+12:002008-06-10T06:11:00.000+12:00I would imagine that what will happen will go some...I would imagine that what will happen will go something like this: eventually, Ron Weinland will make a statement that since "the church" is growing, God has extended the time to allow the lost sheep to come back to the fold. This is because of His great mercy and patience. However, Ron will state that since God's plan has been put on hold, his mission also has been put on hold. I expect he will step down "until God calls him back to his mission."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28426681.post-27787761309644601592008-06-10T05:37:00.000+12:002008-06-10T05:37:00.000+12:00There's one O.T. passage which seems to combine "F...<I>There's one O.T. passage which seems to combine "Firstfruits" and "Feast of Weeks" for some reason. That's apparently where he gets that statement. But doesn't that put Jesus in the tomb for something like 50 days and 50 nights?</I><BR/><BR/>If you read the OT account, the large unleavened loaf was waved (lifted) on the Sabbath during UB ... the same day that Christ was ressurected. That being said, the two smaller leavened loaves represent the firstfruits, which are lifted 50 days later: Pentecost.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28426681.post-59221933666172190122008-06-10T04:05:00.000+12:002008-06-10T04:05:00.000+12:00Charlie sald, "The trouble is that these people te...Charlie sald, "The trouble is that these people tend to mate and produce offspring that have to endure being raised in a religious hell".<BR/><BR/>MY COMMENT - No truer words were ever spoken!<BR/><BR/>RichardAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com