tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28426681.post8970807091479333242..comments2023-11-05T20:19:44.812+13:00Comments on Ambassador Watch: The Bible and Corporal PunishmentGavinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03060097218905523899noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28426681.post-85212030714565704532007-07-24T13:41:00.000+12:002007-07-24T13:41:00.000+12:00The "Rod" of correction.Can any kind soul provide ...The "Rod" of correction.<BR/><BR/>Can any kind soul provide the Hebrew or Aramaic for "Spanky"?<BR/><BR/>SeamusAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28426681.post-7773318282672085732007-07-22T15:46:00.000+12:002007-07-22T15:46:00.000+12:00A comment on the latest poll: the choices given ar...A comment on the latest poll: the choices given are 1) Biblical and 2) Barbaric. Aren't those two synonymous? :-)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28426681.post-65437415420869856802007-07-22T12:23:00.000+12:002007-07-22T12:23:00.000+12:00The really disturbing thing is how adults perceive...The really disturbing thing is how adults perceive God in His child rearing practices as they practice it on their children.<BR/><BR/>Not a kind loving concerned giving God allowing His children to make mistakes in a safe environment, but one quick to wrath, rendering correction that leaves one near death and never giving any kind of indication that you've done anything right in your whole life.<BR/><BR/>In fact, the Armstrongist view is that as baptized converted adults, we are still completely wicked and evil and must repent continually with the promise that if we don't become perfect, we shall go through the Great Tribulation. [And including the extremely annoying Psalm 51 periodically, particularly every Passover, as if we all commit adultery and kill off the spouse of the one with whom we committed adultery. Only the ministers do that -- at least the adultery part: The murder part is in the corporate sense of disfellowshipping the spouse instead of outright murder.]<BR/><BR/>How could children in the WCG and xCGs [those few who are left] receive any other kind of treatment?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28426681.post-56276649187482310572007-07-22T08:43:00.000+12:002007-07-22T08:43:00.000+12:00I grew up in Catholic schools. Not much different...I grew up in Catholic schools. Not much different. I recall only a very few of the nuns who didn't exercise corporate punishment. Growing up in the 1950's and 1960's. it was very common to witness or be the victim of being shaken, pinched, having your hair pulled or head banged against the chalkboard, slapped, shoved, finger(s) bent back, hit on top of the head with a book, and I even recall some nuns kicking the boys in the seat of their pants. And if you went home and told your parents, you were in even greater trouble, because the nuns were never wrong in executing punishment.<BR/><BR/>Religion and abuse are quite synonymous. <BR/><BR/> <BR/><BR/>Religion and abuse are rather synonymous.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28426681.post-22580738374863388012007-07-22T06:16:00.000+12:002007-07-22T06:16:00.000+12:00As I mentioned in an earlier post on another threa...As I mentioned in an earlier post on another thread; All I had to do to teach my oldest child to not run into a road without looking, was to show him the pancaked squirrel in the road. Point made loud and clear without making his bottom red. Misbehaving? Make them stand in the corner until they stare a hole through the wall. Child look depressed? Give 'em a hug, tell them you love them and take them out for a surprise ice cream cone...They'll either forget about what was bothering them or open up to you about it while enjoying the therapeutic effects of a scoop of mint chocolate chip in a waffle cone.<BR/><BR/>As DD might say: Rub them the right way.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28426681.post-73759405183421158262007-07-22T05:15:00.000+12:002007-07-22T05:15:00.000+12:00So often we hear that "that is not what the Bible ...So often we hear that "that is not what the Bible meant," "that's not what the words mean," "one has to take it in it's cultural context" and other such disclaimers that are meant to deflect how people are actually applying what seems to be God's way of this or that. <BR/><BR/>Of course, these disclaimers of the reader not understanding what this all "really means" are offered after years of misunderstanding, misapplication, abuse and turmoil. <BR/><BR/>In practical fact, people are taught to take it all at face value, as presented in the language they can read. Since the "all scripture is given by the inspiration of God..." revelation is in place, it's all really spoken and inspired by God and the idea that Proverbs was written by jewish men for jewish boys etc, makes no difference to pew occupiers. It's God's way of childrearing. If it's for such a limited group or it does not really mean what you think it means and are told it means, then get it out of the Bible and don't mess us up with it. <BR/><BR/>Like Paul telling people that his ideas about not marrying are better than theirs about having an intimate relationship. He offers the disclaimer that this is his idea, not "the Lord's". Then Paul should close his mouth and mind his own business too. How many people took his understanding of the "time is short" and totally screwed up their lives believing his worldview.....LOTS no doubt. <BR/><BR/>The Plain Truth About Childrearing is to love your children unconditionally, teach them that life is choices, cultivate some common sense and don't take too seriously the advice of celebate, childless and unmarriageable men who show no evidence of spending one day of their lives in a meaningful relationship as lover, husband, father or grandfather.<BR/><BR/>....and certainly don't use the story of Abraham taking Isaac on a camping trip to sacrifice to El and spring "and you're the sacrfice" on him to show what a dedicated follower of El and Dad Abraham was!<BR/><BR/>DDAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28426681.post-40710887193280526252007-07-22T04:06:00.000+12:002007-07-22T04:06:00.000+12:00"Hell, why not just carry a stick and knock 'em up..."Hell, why not just carry a stick and knock 'em up side the head?"<BR/><BR/>Thanks..I'll give it a try..:)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28426681.post-50992056644829312242007-07-22T02:43:00.000+12:002007-07-22T02:43:00.000+12:00-Ordinarily, if someone hits another the law calls...-<BR/><BR/><B>Ordinarily, if someone hits another the law calls it battery and since a threat usually preceeds it, "assault and battery". Except when it comes to helpless children, then it's called "correction"</B><BR/><BR/>Beating the crap out of someone "out of love" is an absolute oxymoron just like saying "cruel kindness". It's bullshit and is really only a way for the parent to vent their anger toward their child.<BR/><BR/>Hell, why not just carry a stick and knock 'em up side the head?Corkyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15894537940881776504noreply@blogger.com