tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28426681.post7850530679101047984..comments2023-11-05T20:19:44.812+13:00Comments on Ambassador Watch: Caramel Onyx - Iranian opulence in EdmondGavinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03060097218905523899noreply@blogger.comBlogger60125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28426681.post-3299196542462857282008-08-17T12:26:00.000+12:002008-08-17T12:26:00.000+12:00"say" not "way" ugh.Must remember to hit Preview i..."say" not "way" ugh.<BR/><BR/>Must remember to hit Preview instead of Publish, no matter how rushed I am.......Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28426681.post-50913002848550856152008-08-16T17:24:00.000+12:002008-08-16T17:24:00.000+12:00Charlie,Don't let the CoG apologist get you down. ...Charlie,<BR/><BR/>Don't let the CoG apologist get you down. Just look s/h/it in the eye, smile sweetly, and say:<BR/><BR/>"Concentration camp? I grew up in one. Survive another one through the great trib? Psssshhh. Piece of cake!"<BR/><BR/>'S'what I would way. Oh wait, I think I just did.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28426681.post-11888750938237127242008-08-16T13:16:00.000+12:002008-08-16T13:16:00.000+12:00To summarize a few pro-Sabbathkeeing comments, if ...To summarize a few <I>pro-Sabbathkeeing</I> comments, <I>if you keep Sunday, you can't understand prophecy.</I><BR/><BR/>Well, does that rule out understanding non-prophetic things? Remember one of HWA's favorite sources was <I>Bullinger's Companion Bible.</I> E.W. Bullinger - Anglican minister - how Sunday keeping can you get?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28426681.post-16807874496841487482008-08-16T12:21:00.000+12:002008-08-16T12:21:00.000+12:00Corky,The time of the end is irrelevant to me. We...Corky,<BR/><BR/>The time of the end is irrelevant to me. We may be living in it, or we may not. We both know that it is something which false prophets have used to exploit people, and is certainly not a salvation issue. <BR/><BR/>I believe it is more likely that each of us will be facing our own personal "time of the end" rather than the "end of the age". That, of course, could become a salvation issue.<BR/><BR/>I don't know. You were once a Christadelphian minister, and I know that you have forgotten more about the Bible than I ever knew. I think you might possibly at least be wondering about these things. I'd really like to see best case scenario for you, man.<BR/><BR/>BBAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28426681.post-28515305989752264952008-08-16T12:12:00.000+12:002008-08-16T12:12:00.000+12:00Anonymous,I believe that the majority of the disgu...Anonymous,<BR/><BR/>I believe that the majority of the disgust expressed on this blog is directed towards hypocrisy. And, yes, that is a people problem, or a church corporate problem, not a God problem.<BR/><BR/>If you believe in the goodness of God's law, you and I are not that far removed, philosophically speaking. I believe that Jesus Christ causes good fruits to grow in the lives of those who sincerely and without reservation call on Him, and invite Him into their lives. I believe that Jesus and St. Paul have done a very good job of outlining what these fruits include. In fact, Jesus actually reiterated all of the commandments, but deliberately (and some may say curiously) left out the sabbath commandment, which we know that He fulfilled.<BR/><BR/>TGCOL (the two great commandments of the Lord) were the driving principles behind the legalistic schoolteacher which was imposed specifically on the Israelites as a people for a limited time. If you have ever studied the Jewish interpretation of Mosaic law, you will understand that the Jews did not parse these laws into commandments, ceremonial laws, and washings. The Jews, who were God's chosen curators of that law, believe that the law stands or falls as a unit. It is not something from which you would get to pick and choose. Have you taken a mikvah lately? Paul tells us that subjecting ourselves to the elements of the old covenant actually blinds us to the new covenant.<BR/><BR/>Obviously, we each have our own understandings of the meaning of what Jesus Christ has accomplished, and is doing in His peoples' lives. Perhaps, in time, there will be unity. As long as we are sincere in our beliefs and in our behavior, I don't believe there will be a problem. I expect that when Jesus returns, there will be plenty of correction to go around. Fair enough?<BR/><BR/>BBAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28426681.post-81267708559794443352008-08-16T11:48:00.000+12:002008-08-16T11:48:00.000+12:00Anonymous said: "Charlie Horse,So sad to hear...Anonymous said: "Charlie Horse,<BR/><BR/>So sad to hear about all your hustle and bustle and trampling on the Sabbath day. I realise that things were not perfect in the WCG. Understand, though, that things can be even less perfect at many other places. Working in a field, factory, or mine for seven days a week could really improve your attitude toward the idea of a weekly Sabbath rest. May I recommend 3-1/2 years of slave labor for the neo-Nazis in the coming Great Tribulation as a cure for your whining?"<BR/><BR/>--> Why don't you go commit a physiologically impossible act of self-impregnation.<BR/><BR/>My point is that the sabbath was anything but restful and I find it impossible to believe that the 318 or so mosaic laws were dictated by God. The were proclaimed by men to control ex-slaves. It is as simple as that. The only people that benefited from herbie's take on religion were those on the receiving end of the tithes and offerings, the rest of us were either born into the garbage religion or were sold a bag of shit that hasn't taken place in over 2000 years despite EVERY SINGLE religious nut since saying it would happen in their lifetimes. Suggesting 3.5 years in a nazi konzentrationlager to someone is typical harmstrong fear mongering.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28426681.post-24571555282090306342008-08-16T10:05:00.000+12:002008-08-16T10:05:00.000+12:00Charlie said... [I fought the (Sabbath) law and th...<I>Charlie said... <BR/><BR/>[I fought the (Sabbath) law and the law won.]</I><BR/><BR/>Charlie Horse,<BR/><BR/>So sad to hear about all your hustle and bustle and trampling on the Sabbath day. I realise that things were not perfect in the WCG. Understand, though, that things can be even less perfect at many other places. Working in a field, factory, or mine for seven days a week could really improve your attitude toward the idea of a weekly Sabbath rest. May I recommend 3-1/2 years of slave labor for the neo-Nazis in the coming Great Tribulation as a cure for your whining?<BR/><BR/>----------------------------<BR/><BR/><I>Mickey said... <BR/><BR/>For someone who is attempting to defend an already weak position through generalizations you only undermine your arguement by name calling, and flippency.</I><BR/><BR/>Mickey Mouse,<BR/><BR/>Yes, the name calling is a weakness that I give in to. Just pray that I don't give in to the bad advice of the <B>il</B>legalists at this blog who say I should stop trying to obey God's righteous laws that were given for the good of everyone, and become like them, killing people, raping their daughters, and stealing their cars.<BR/><BR/>----------------------------<BR/><BR/><I>Byker Bob said... <BR/><BR/>[Some more tripe ... vroom, peddle, vroom.]</I><BR/><BR/>Tricycle Bob,<BR/><BR/>I, too, have met some from the Sunday-keeping crowd. Their many doctrinal errors are great and cannot be overlooked. I have seen how anything goes with them, except the truth of God that is in the Bibles that they carry around. I have seen how they are quick to judge those who are better than themselves, saying that they are not good Christians because they do not go to church on Sunday morning, and so will burn for ever and ever in hell fire.<BR/><BR/>The only good I have ever seen in any of them is in as much as any of them ever do actually follow some biblical teaching, such as not committing adultery, etc. (Many do commit adultery.)<BR/><BR/>----------------------------<BR/><BR/>ADDITIONAL EXPLANATION<BR/><BR/>Many people now hate God's laws because of their bad experiences in the WCG and its splinter groups. This has left them confused. They associate God with the evil people who came in His name.<BR/><BR/>The problem in the WCG was with people sinning. In other words, the problem in the WCG was with people breaking God's laws.<BR/><BR/>HWA should not have made up wrong dates for the end of the world (age), and used them to badger more money out of his followers.<BR/><BR/>GTA should not have been so sexually immoral.<BR/><BR/>Some of the spoiled WCG brat members should not have lied and slandered and done such evil to others for no reason.<BR/><BR/>The splinter group leaders and members should stop thinking of the present time as an opportunity for them to do all the evil they can to others, thinking that God is not watching and that they will get away with it.<BR/><BR/>If you truly do good to others you will actually be obeying (at least some of) God's laws. Those who want to do away with God's laws typically have nastier plans in store for other people.<BR/><BR/>Some satanic frauds like Gerald's PCG try to fix people up with much older sex perverts for the old perverts' own selfish and immoral purposes. The victims get kicked out of the PCG and slandered all over the place if they do not go along with it. They are told outrageous lies about how the leaders have done so much for them and tried so hard to help them. This is an example of the satanic lying that goes on in the PCG. No wonder at all that some people don't trust these monsters of depravity. But note well that the problem is that the PCG does not obey God's laws. All the evil in it comes from them breaking God's laws.<BR/><BR/>The disgust expressed at this blog should be towards those who break God's good laws.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28426681.post-28913940874759662512008-08-16T08:59:00.000+12:002008-08-16T08:59:00.000+12:00Hey Byker Bob,Luke 21:22,32Kinda says it all, does...Hey Byker Bob,<BR/><BR/>Luke 21:22,32<BR/><BR/>Kinda says it all, doesn't it?Corkyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15894537940881776504noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28426681.post-32139912145086293742008-08-16T05:29:00.000+12:002008-08-16T05:29:00.000+12:00Anonymous, I have a problem with your logic. You ...Anonymous, <BR/>I have a problem with your logic. You compare bad with worse, and in your context of relativism, come up with good. That is normally fallacious, but especially egregious when the bad object with which you start has historically claimed to be "God's True Church".<BR/><BR/>Secondly, we have several categories of people posting here. I believe the atheists would agree that, yes, they do reject the Bible, they do not believe the Holy Spirit exists, but they they consider themselves to be good people because they practice secular ethics.<BR/><BR/>However, there are also a number of persons who use the same book, the Bible, but who have arrived at a different understanding from your own. Such people are hardly lawless, in fact they are the living embodiment of Gal.5:16-21, which was God's original intent for mankind as He walked with Adam and Eve, prior to man's fall, and the imposition of Mosaic law. This has everything to do with the restoration process initiated by Jesus, and detailed in Rom.5:17-19.<BR/><BR/>I've found, over the years, that people, especially other Christians, are completely different from the ways in which the leaders of your church have portrayed them. I will say this, however. Even evangelical preachers have commented that only about 10% of Christians behave any differently from "the world" than do their non-Christian counterparts.<BR/><BR/>I'm actually thinking of changing my screen name. Because I enjoy motorcycles, apparently ACOG people still assume that I'm a flagrant sinner, just as they did back in the '60s when I rode them on the AC campus. Think about this for a moment. While you are riding, you want to be really close to God. You have an appreciation for the life and freedom which God has given you, and realize how vulnerable you really are. I think the mega churches are more enlightened on this topic, as I've noticed that some have motorcycle clubs, which also function as one of their outreach activities used to assist people in finding God.<BR/><BR/>BBAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28426681.post-76277785013595547072008-08-16T01:28:00.000+12:002008-08-16T01:28:00.000+12:00Anon...Fri Aug 15, 01:11:00 PM NZSTFor someone who...Anon...Fri Aug 15, 01:11:00 PM NZST<BR/><BR/>For someone who is attempting to defend an already weak position through generalizations you only undermine your arguement by name calling, and flippency. <BR/><BR/>Try following some of the advice in that same Bible you're thumpin' on and you might come across as being a little more worth listening to.<BR/><BR/>Gal 5:22<BR/>Matt 10:16Mickeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12447091547346560787noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28426681.post-50335445284577680792008-08-16T01:25:00.000+12:002008-08-16T01:25:00.000+12:00Anonymous posteth: "People still need physical res...Anonymous posteth: "People still need physical rest, which is why God Himself made the Sabbath for (not against) man (not just the Jews). The illegalists can go for the jobs that offer 24 days on and then 4 days off, or the ones that offer 24/7/365 slavery."<BR/><BR/>The sabbath was anything but restful each week. Getting up a the crack of dawn, rushing around to get drssed and out the door to drive an hour or more to services at a building that resembled things other than a church. <BR/><BR/>After you got to said meeting hall: (Masonic lodge or catholic building) Chairs, sound system, mother's room, recording equipment, tape library, podium, and coffee pot all had to be set up. Any 'offensive' pictures or symbols (since we were meeting in the belly of the beast) had to be covered up.<BR/><BR/>Once all of that was done, you were treated to two hours of nonsense you have heard a 100 times before after which everything had to be deconstructed and then drive an hour or so home.<BR/><BR/>Yeah - Good thing God made that sabbath so we could rest.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28426681.post-43686621954910360912008-08-15T13:11:00.000+12:002008-08-15T13:11:00.000+12:00Byker Bob said... [All the usual tripe that is com...<I>Byker Bob said... <BR/><BR/>[All the usual tripe that is commonly heard and carelessly repeated these days.]<BR/><BR/>I trust the people whose faith, love, and spirituality has grown to the point where they realize that Jesus fulfilled the Old Covenant, including all of the holydays and the sabbath.<BR/><BR/>It's why God allows the legalists to be deceived by ridiculous theories such as British Israelism.<BR/><BR/>Every day is sabbath rest for the Christian with a circumcised heart. <BR/><BR/>They need to ask God where the Holy Spirit is actually working, and then place their support there, rather than reflexively attempting to find the true ACOG.</I><BR/><BR/><BR/>Bicycle Bob, <BR/><BR/>Whereas by now you ought to be up to riding a 200 cc motorcycle, you need to put the trainer wheels back on your bicycle and start all over again at the beginning.<BR/><BR/>A "legalist" is not the worst person around. Consider also these other bad types: sinner (that is, transgressor of God's laws), worker of iniquity, unrighteous, rebel, pervert, murderer, adulterer, thief, idolater, blasphemer, <B>il</B>legalist, etc. They aren't so nice either.<BR/><BR/>If you think the WCG members under HWA fell for some "ridiculous theories," go check out the really ridiculous theories that the <B>il</B>legalists fall for! Their truly ridiculous theories are legion, just like the demons behind their ridiculous theories.<BR/><BR/>People still need physical rest, which is why God Himself made the Sabbath for (not against) man (not just the Jews). The <B>il</B>legalists can go for the jobs that offer 24 days on and then 4 days off, or the ones that offer 24/7/365 slavery.<BR/><BR/>Also, the annual Holy Days, which do appear to picture God's plan of salvation, have not all been fulfilled yet.<BR/><BR/>Bob, you need to ask yourself if the Holy Spirit is really working with those who reject everything that God said in the Bible. Perhaps it is some other, different, spirit, since the influence is totally different than that of the Holy Spirit.<BR/><BR/>It is common practice these days to try to pass off ignorant and sinful behavior as showing great growth in "faith, love, and spirituality." I met a former WCG member who talks exactly like you. When trying to explain why he thinks that God's laws should be done away with, he claims that he doesn't plan to go totally wild. The problem is that he has always been pretty wild, swindling other guys and raping girls. It would be easier to consider seriously the idea of rejecting God's laws and ways if the people advocating this approach did not always turn out to be complete, total perverts. The reason that they reject God's right and good ways is simply that they are up to no good, though they are often very smooth talkers and try to hide it.<BR/><BR/>Now, have a nice ride, Bicycle Bob, but not <I>too</I> nice. You need to stop peddling around and start to get serious.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28426681.post-86687135646866201302008-08-15T04:45:00.000+12:002008-08-15T04:45:00.000+12:00"You can, and certainly should, just ignore all th...<EM>"You can, and certainly should, just ignore all the blather from Sunday-keeping prophets."</EM><BR/><BR/>And the Saturday-keeping prophets too, while you're at it.Weinland Watchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08029452242127198705noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28426681.post-54798580820162510962008-08-14T13:56:00.000+12:002008-08-14T13:56:00.000+12:00I trust the people whose faith, love, and spiritua...I trust the people whose faith, love, and spirituality has grown to the point where they realize that Jesus fulfilled the Old Covenant, including all of the holydays and the sabbath. The Old Covenant is over. That's why God has never revealed the secrets of prophecy to those still mired in it. It's why God allows the legalists to be deceived by ridiculous theories such as British Israelism. It is why HWA and his imitators have been 100% inaccurate in all of their prophecies, and will continue to be so long as they are blinded. <BR/><BR/>Every day is sabbath rest for the Christian with a circumcised heart. God has blessed the USA beyond measure. We are a nation founded on the principles which came out of the Protestant Reformation. As Christians, we are also a beneficiary of the promises to Abraham's seed, through Jesus Christ, a descendant.<BR/><BR/>You've got to ask yourself, if God is working through the ACOGs, why is their message totally invisible, except for insomniacs who might be watching infomercials at 3:00 AM? I think ACOG people assume they are safe because Mick Jagger and Keith Richards have not supplanted them in preaching the gospel. But, just because the Stones haven't been raised up to preach the Kingdom doesn't mean that God isn't using figurative stones, ie, other non ACOG churches to do so.<BR/><BR/>Seems like some folks need to get a clue here. They need to ask God where the Holy Spirit is actually working, and then place their support there, rather than reflexively attempting to find the true ACOG.<BR/><BR/>BBAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28426681.post-65876345281192520472008-08-14T12:57:00.000+12:002008-08-14T12:57:00.000+12:00Byker Bob said... Anonymous 12:09, Sunday keeping ...<I>Byker Bob said... <BR/><BR/>Anonymous 12:09, Sunday keeping has nothing to do with the veracity of prophecy, or falseness thereof. We of all people, unless there is something seriously wrong with our minds, already know of the false prophets who happen to prefer the Israelite sabbath, but there are also false prophets who instead commemorate the resurrection each week. So, if you are looking to the sabbath to authenticate or invalidate a group's prophecies, you are using very misguided criteria.</I><BR/><BR/><BR/>Byker Bub,<BR/><BR/>The point is that the Sunday-keeping televangelists don't obey God's Sabbath commandment, so don't expect God to reveal any great prophecy to any of them. They do not submit to God, and God does not reveal to them. Their Sunday keeping--and Sabbath breaking--disqualifies them as a credible source. You can, and certainly should, just ignore all the blather from Sunday-keeping prophets. They are not only unprofitable but downright costly to their suckers/sinners.<BR/><BR/>Of course, some false prophets do know about the biblical Sabbath as a result of being in a church that taught about it. For example: Gerald Flurry, Ronald Weinland, David Koresh, etc. So, additional filters are needed to screen out this scum. <BR/><BR/>But then, don't bikers come up with false prophecies too? <BR/>He he he ;-)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28426681.post-70731917562077809152008-08-13T18:29:00.000+12:002008-08-13T18:29:00.000+12:00Anonymous 12:09, Sunday keeping has nothing to do ...Anonymous 12:09, Sunday keeping has nothing to do with the veracity of prophecy, or falseness thereof. We of all people, unless there is something seriously wrong with our minds, already know of the false prophets who happen to prefer the Israelite sabbath, but there are also false prophets who instead commemorate the resurrection each week. So, if you are looking to the sabbath to authenticate or invalidate a group's prophecies, you are using very misguided criteria.<BR/><BR/>On TBN there are Messianic Jews who are into prophecy big-time, and have their Hebraic interpretations, and there are evangelicals who dwell on prophecy. Both groups appear to be using prophecy just as HWA did, as a hook to "spike" their ministries, and to scare people into donations. Empires are being built, just as we have witnessed in ACOGdom. All of those who do indulge in prophecy want you to think they have Revelation down pat, and they tend to exploit the news events of our times to support their pet theories. If the gospel was indeed intended to be the preaching of the end times, rather than the fact that Jesus came to restore or save mankind, these TBN people as a diverse but united community are absolutely dwarfing the efforts of Old School WCG, or the various splinters. From the results, it would appear that God has raised up the stones!<BR/><BR/>I would say that the ACOGs need to get united, and really get on the ball, because their message is either ridiculous (Weinland and Flurry), inaudible, or totally invisible. Yes, the time of the end is being preached BIGTIME, but because of the continued splintering due to a lack of the unity which one might expect would normally be provided by the Holy Spirit, the ACOGs have become marginalized into a state of irrelevancy in this preaching effort. You might say they've been left behind!<BR/><BR/>BBAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28426681.post-40514939316851163682008-08-12T12:09:00.000+12:002008-08-12T12:09:00.000+12:00Robert said... Forget Flurry and watch the dvds of...<I>Robert said... <BR/><BR/>Forget Flurry and watch the dvds of the Prophecy Club (www.prophecyclub.com). Read Pat Robertson's book, New World Order.</I> <BR/><BR/><BR/>Shame on you, Robert, for telling such fibs. Stop trying to lead former WCG members into complete nonsense and confusion and evil!<BR/><BR/>The Sunday-keeping televangelists are certainly NOT the people to go to for knowledge of prophecy, or anything else related to the Bible.<BR/>Sunday-keepers have a long history of coming up with wrong dates for the end of the world. <BR/><BR/>In case some at this blog did not know it, William Miller of 1844 infamy never became either a Sabbath-keeper or a Seventh Day Adventist. William Miller (1782-1849) was a self-taught, Sunday-keeping, Baptist preacher. In 1833 his local Baptist church voted him a license to preach. It seems he was never formally ordained.<BR/><BR/>When the SDA church was formed around 1860, some of the SDA founders who had listened to William Miller's preaching years earlier could not shake his wrong dates out of their heads. To their everlasting shame, they hung on to one of the wrong dates, claiming that something different--something invisible--had happened on it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28426681.post-86900012354017255992008-08-12T01:32:00.000+12:002008-08-12T01:32:00.000+12:00Robert,I think you have spent far too much time re...Robert,<BR/><BR/>I think you have spent far too much time reading information from conspiracy groups. I highly recommend getting a girlfriend and spending time with real people as recovery therapy.<BR/><BR/><BR/>Purple hymnal:<BR/><BR/>I am not a Canuck but over the years I was in the WCG we met in Masonic lodges, hotels, a run down banquet hall, catholic schools, a fire hall, and a Knights of Columbus building.<BR/><BR/>I always found it odd that we could meet in buildings owned and operated by Masons and Catholics...especially since we were taught that they were "Of the Devil".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28426681.post-92006822893279935482008-08-11T14:00:00.000+12:002008-08-11T14:00:00.000+12:00Robert said, "Forget Flurry and watch the dvds of ...Robert said, "Forget Flurry and watch the dvds of the Prophecy Club (www.prophecyclub.com)"<BR/><BR/>MY COMMENT - Well, the dumb sheep keep getting dumber. <BR/><BR/>Here is an excerpt from the "Prophecy Club" (Note: Prophecy Club = Income for the producers of the dvds from the dumb sheep, Robert):<BR/> <BR/>Leslie Johnson is a licensed, ordained Prophet and has given over 5,000 personal prophecies. She has pinpoint accuracy in her prophetic words, dreams, and visions. She is the author of four books: The Perfect Touch, The Crown of Glory, Help Me I’m All Tied Up, More Than A Ruby and speaker on four Prophecy Club DVDs. Leslie has been given many specific dreams, visions, night-visions, and spiritual experiences;"<BR/><BR/>End of Excerpt<BR/><BR/>Yeah, right. And pigs fly!<BR/><BR/>Robert, how do you become a licensed prophet? Who issued the license and where is the authenticity of the 5,000 personal prophecies? Where is the proof?<BR/><BR/>These idiots that keep merchandising end time prophecies to the dumb sheep never cease to amaze me. Of course, you have to give them some credit as they probably have better homes and lifestyles than I will ever have working for a living. <BR/><BR/>If I didn't learn anything from Herbert Armstrong, it was "lie to the masses, dine with the classes". The Roberts of the world will send the false profits money.<BR/><BR/>RichardAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28426681.post-85734148587895410322008-08-11T12:53:00.000+12:002008-08-11T12:53:00.000+12:00Robert said... Forget Flurry and watch the dvds of...<I>Robert said...<BR/> <BR/>Forget Flurry and watch the dvds of the Prophecy Club (www.prophecyclub.com). Read Pat Robertson's book, New World Order.</I><BR/><BR/><BR/>NO, NO, NO ! ! !<BR/><BR/>Gerald Flurry is no prophet. He is an identity thief.<BR/><BR/>Robert Ardis is no prophet. He thinks the PCG is a true church.<BR/><BR/>Pat Robertson is no prophet. He is a Sunday-keeping ignoramus.<BR/><BR/>They are ALL unprofitable. The correct answer is, "None of the above."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28426681.post-42235947983831131362008-08-11T10:38:00.000+12:002008-08-11T10:38:00.000+12:00""... Canadian ministry ... we weren't even allowe...<EM>""... Canadian ministry ... we weren't even allowed to rent Masonic halls, back in the day."</EM><BR/>------<BR/><EM>"At least one church did - Wetaskiwin, Alberta for many years."</EM><BR/><BR/>Seriously? From the way I heard some of the lay-ministry tell it, freemasons were second in line only to le poopoo for being horrific anti-christ evil.<BR/><BR/>Just goes to show you how different the church could be, from one congregation to the next.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28426681.post-31661349736189116272008-08-11T09:36:00.000+12:002008-08-11T09:36:00.000+12:00« Robert the Brit said... I am tired of reading...<B>« <I>Robert the Brit said...<BR/><BR/> I am tired of reading how these wonderful leaders in the US are fighting terrorism--even Ron Dart's support of Bush was enough for me--I have never listened to him again! »</I></B><BR/><BR/>I've wondered why it is that churches with a long history of being against abortion are so quick to demand the death penalty of criminals?<BR/><BR/>How can religions with such a death wish for America (as in the "end-times" apocalypse) can be so rabidly Republican in their political beliefs. Especialy when they don't even vote or participate in the political process. <BR/><BR/>Okay.....classic Armstrongism is really just the Old Testament in Greek drag clothing....I suppose its fair for them to be eye-for-an-eye kind of folks. But how do churches who profess grace and the New Covenant and God's redemption of humans support the death penalty for crimes?<BR/><BR/>HWA was careful to buddy up to the FBI and search out potential communists sympathizers for them in the 1950s. Tkach made sure that the Church was Reagan friendly.<BR/><BR/>The nearest I can theorize, its kind of like the mafia helping out the US Gov't in its invasion of Italy in World War II, they knew Mussolini was bad for their business.<BR/><BR/>Are Democrats perceived as being bad for the religion business? Or just generally Satanic for being liberal? AMERICAN KABUKIhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11064036099785125749noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28426681.post-75705037316505019122008-08-11T08:42:00.000+12:002008-08-11T08:42:00.000+12:00You have got to be kidding!Fred Coulter? Did you r...You have got to be kidding!Fred Coulter? Did you really listen to him? Do you know just what HE teaches?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28426681.post-89422272044544874972008-08-11T07:42:00.000+12:002008-08-11T07:42:00.000+12:00"Flurry is certainly following in HWAs footsteps- ..."Flurry is certainly following in HWAs footsteps- focusing his time and resources on pet building projects all on the backs of his tithe slaves."<BR/><BR/>Pharaoh Flurry - Let the people go!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28426681.post-37322009880301198812008-08-11T06:39:00.000+12:002008-08-11T06:39:00.000+12:00Forget Flurry and watch the dvds of the Prophecy C...Forget Flurry and watch the dvds of the Prophecy Club (www.prophecyclub.com). Read Pat Robertson's book, New World Order. <BR/>We get the same rubbish from these COGs with the exception of Fred Coulter who teaches about these shady organisations running things behind the scenes. <BR/>I am tired of reading how these wonderful leaders in the US are fighting terrorism--even Ron Dart's support of Bush was enough for me--I have never listened to him again! When we all know terrorism is as bogus as the Easter bunny, just a ploy, to bring in the "beast system". Even the Seventh Day Adventists believe the US is a Rising Beast of Revelation! They are more on the mark than the Flurry!Robert https://www.blogger.com/profile/12120572010028667586noreply@blogger.com